Back to the start with Ryan Androsoff

Sitting down with one of the founders of Canada's digital ambitions

It’s easy to criticize government, but making public services functional is hard. Nobody set out to build cumbersome, confusing processes. Bureaucracy happened for what were, at the time, good reasons. But they became gradually, inexorably complex. Why haven’t other countries fallen into this trap? To help me understand how we got here—and how to move forward—I sit down with Ryan Androsoff. His Think Digital podcast has chronicled Canada’s service modernization for years.

A founding member of the Canadian Digital Service and graduate of Harvard’s Kennedy School, Ryan knows that building functional government is hard, not because of technology, but because of the structures and incentives in the public sector.